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https://www.ec3health.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/IV-Laser-Presentation.pdf

Effects of Green Laser:

• Green binds to hemoglobin

• Improves the function, behavior and cell elasticity of red blood cells [17, 20, 38,

61]

• Increases Oxygen Delivery [17, 20, 31, 38, 50]

 improved oxygen affinity

 increased attraction of oxygen to hemoglobin

 Improved ability to carry more oxygen

• Decreases in lactic acid [17, 20]

• Reduces blood viscosity and improves blood flow [31, 38, 50]

• Activates reparative and stabilizing pathways [20, 38, 50]

• Platelet activation with gradual loss of natural platelet reactivity and ability

to respond to activating agents [17, 20]

• Positive effect on Sodium/Potassium Pump, which helps to regulate intra-and

extra-cellular cation homeostasis [23] 18

• Kassak et al. (2005): Green laserlight increases the production of ATP in the

irradiated mitochondria for more than 30% [23]

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Effects of Green Laser:

Activity of Na+/K+-ATPase of red blood cells

irradiated with Nd:YAG laser of various

fluences. Results are presented as mean ±

S.E.M. of the concentration of inorganic

phosphate (n=8). Equation of the trend line and

coefficient of determination (R2 ) are shown.

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420MedicineMan's avatar

Na+/K+ is very important in the plasma and red blood cells, as those ions scavenge and degrade reduced Graphene oxide.

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Sirskiwi's avatar

thanks for the news and blessings to all involved.

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We The People's avatar

Question: What type of supplements are also concurrently being taken?

Speculation: There could be a potentiation of the photonic effect by a photosensitizer.

Known sensitizers; Chlorin/Chlorophyllin, Curcumin,(Turmeric), Hypericin (St. John’s Wort), liposomal, Riboflavin,

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420MedicineMan's avatar

That's going to be in my next article, yes some those supplements are in my protocols.

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Greg's's avatar

To negative or positive effect?

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We The People's avatar

Not sure?

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Danyèle's avatar

Hi C.!

Good news! Glad you’re doing better and that the “Mean Green 532” has given all these excellent results on you and volunteers.

I will email SAM with my suggestions.

Warm regards.

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420MedicineMan's avatar

Nice to read from you Danyèle,

Yes, it is much of the goodness.

Kindest regards

Craig.

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rrodynmac's avatar

No expert here, but in the after laser use pictures of blood (it looks so much better, yes) but are the membranes of the red cells a bit thicker than normal? Like the synthetic erythomers Karl C has been showing?

Not trying to upset anyone here-I just want to be sure. You know I love you MedMan!

But this is really important!

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matt. j.a.o.b's avatar

Hi 420,

Thanks for the mention and your work.

I am now down to a few drops of clean lugols iodine and a squirt of peroxide in my coffee in the morning and a sublingual laser every few weeks or so. My blood is the best I have seen since starting to look at it.

A while back I did a sodium bicarb, calcium edta followed by high dose vitamin C as an experiment to see if it knocked the bots over as suggested by others. While it didn't do that it in totality it certainly improved my blood significantly in other ways and would have helped get the results I see today.

Great to see Sparklez getting similar results to us. There are others are also telling me the same now.

Yes the ANZAC spirit is not dead and I look forward to catching up in person.

Cheers,

Matt.

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Greg's's avatar

Matt,it appears med 420 is gone..it's months later..you seem adept here.

What's your current protocol for diet and supps and laser please .

For those light on cash how might we buy a pointer laser and make it work with adjustments and how to adjust is the zillion dollar question...can you create a poor mans green laser pointer cheapy that's safe and works?

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matt. j.a.o.b's avatar

Hi Greg, I have put together a very cheap one before . it was 50$ from China, 532 nm ( but it varied from 517 to 535nm) 50 mW and plugged a $10 sterio fiber optic into it. It took someone a few months to get the same blood results that we see in 20 minutes tho. He used it for 20 minutes a day under the tongue. As I dont know the overall effect of the varyingwavelengths I can't recommend it even though it produced a good result eventually.

Its that " first do no harm " thing.

I will be doing another post soon and will try to update my current understanding on the rest.

Cheers, m

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Greg's's avatar

I could go to $350 if you locate something in between.Which video is your best before and after with the laser and have you been checking for calamari clots using thermal imaging..seems to work to about 80+% to detect them.Im wondering what cheapest route would be to have them removed and what insurance is saying about all this..Likely you'd have to get a clinic to diagnose it and cuz insurance wouldn't respect clinics opinion you'd then use hospitals or physician for official diagnosis claiming symptoms of blockage (even if no symptoms,etc).and then go back to a clinic to have it done..I'm guessing Tijuana already has such clinics going,I'll check into it.The other concern is even if you get clot pulled out you may still have blockage from all the ligatends of where it attached of non calamari largely blocking one portion of veins.Using the green laser here may be key to success so measuring length of clot and approximating beginning 1-3: inch area could help with thermal readouts backing..it may require taking a radioactive dye to verify blood flow but those have side effects..I've heard there is alternatives..I'll check on that...with half the people having calamari these are questions we have to look at.

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chlorella's avatar

Fantastic! I've been so inspired by tri-vortex since I first read of your mention of it.

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LG's avatar

While I appreciate highlighting this success, to ‘win’ would be a scalable solution that everyone has access to, addressing the nano input and humanities bio nano output.

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420MedicineMan's avatar

That is true, this buys health and time, plus you only need one per family.

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Leon's avatar

Hello, 420MedicineMan;

Thank you for very encouraging article.

This 532nm (< 5mW) ‘Tri-Vortex Geo Laser’ is much more expensive compare to other 532nm/5mW lasers. Do we really need it or one can use just regular 532nm/5mW laser? Can you express your opinion? Thanks

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420MedicineMan's avatar

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32191734/

It's a study on rats skin exposure of 532nm green laser a lower powered laser is optimal for skin health. Quote below...

If you get cheaper laser you'll need to lower the power out put for topical application. Plus laser lasts longer, and use it for longer time period before it heats up too much.

Also the geo audio lasers resonance makes it more efficient at disassembling the nanotechnology, and it has a biological healing quality. So the Tri-vortex geo laser is a win/win either way.

Plus you'll be supporting better technology that's coming in the future. :)))

"Skin of experimental rats were exposed to 532 nm radiance at 0.1, 0.25 and 0.50 W/cm2 for 10 sec. Thermographic changes of skin exposed to 532 nm laser exhibited increased Tmax temperature in radiance dependent manner. After thermal imaging, skin of experimental rats was collected 1 h post laser exposure for studying differential gene expression. The skin exposed to lower power density (0.1 W/cm2) did not show significant changes in expression of gene pathways studied. At moderate radiance (0.25 W/cm2), predominantly canonical wnt/B-catenin pathway genes notch1, axin2, ccdn1, wnt5a and redox homeostasis genes; txn1, nqo1 and txnrd1 were expressed. At higher radiance (0.5 W/cm2), significant repression of genes related to wound healing process particularly notch/wnt pathway viz. hes5, wnt1, wn3b with higher expression of dab2 was recorded. The data obtained from these studies would help in drawing safety limits for skin exposure to 532 nm laser. Further, genes expressed at moderate and high level of radiance exposure to skin were distinct and differential and provide new avenue to configure pathway to counteract laser induced delay in tissue injury and hair follicular damage."

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We The People's avatar

What is the rationale for a laser less than 5mW ?

Weber runs his green laser 532nm @ 50mW

-"Tissue penetration of blue laser is very low, green laser ca. 5mm, red 3 cm, infrared 6 cm."

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We The People's avatar

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32191734/

From the publication:

"High energy laser, particularly 532 nm, is widely used in defense and medical applications and there is need to address its occupational safety."

The application we are discussing is LLLT (low level laser therapy). not "high energy laser's.

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420MedicineMan's avatar

Thank you for the helpful comment.

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Leon's avatar

Thanks for detailed reply.

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rrodynmac's avatar

I think the acoustic part in the Tri-Vortex is what sets it apart from regular lasers. I don’t know if it’s necessary or not, though. Big help I am, I know!

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420MedicineMan's avatar

Yes, it sets it apart from normal laser, my next article will address that.

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Leon's avatar

420MedicineMan;

I'll be waiting for your article. Thanks.

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rrodynmac's avatar

I also would like to know this. Not cashed up here. I know it’s our lives, but the after pictures are giving me pause.

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Harvey Cheyne Jr's avatar

Has anyone reading bought the green laser from 420 medicine man and had success with it?

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420MedicineMan's avatar

The link where you can buy the Tri-vortex geo laser is in above article. Yes, Sparklez uses the laser with success.

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crapshoot farmer's avatar

Yes, maybe someone will comment on it soon.

I'd like to be strongly convinced. It's not expensive at $78. AU. but I've already bought plenty of things that did nothing.

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420MedicineMan's avatar

No it's $Au700, which is cheap, considering it works, the the intravenous single audio phase laser that Matt J.A.O.B uses costs $16000 to $20000 pending on currency.

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Delina H Bishop MD's avatar

Can we get it in the USA too?

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420MedicineMan's avatar

Yes, you can.

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Georgia Lynn Justice's avatar

Hi Medicine man. I'm pretty broke ,do u think any green laser will help until I can afford the 650.00. I really wish I could get the one suggested, which I will as soon as I can. I'm so excited

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420MedicineMan's avatar

You can use a normal finger pointer green laser 532 or 530nm, you should reduce the power output by half if possible. A small electrical goods repairer might be able to do that for you. It won't be as effective as the audio resonance laser, or single phase audio modulated laser. You might even be able to get a cheap audio frequency modulator, you can program the 528Hz into the beam like Matt J.A.O.B's laser. Then you be on a winner. 😊

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We The People's avatar

Can you please explain why you are suggesting to reduce the power output ??

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420MedicineMan's avatar

$650, that's good I thought it went up...

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Georgia Lynn Justice's avatar

Yes great price, just need to get it, I can't wait

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rrodynmac's avatar

I saw $700. Just sayin’….

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Christina's avatar

Me to

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matt. j.a.o.b's avatar

Me too, is this the new "me too"?

I never spent the thousands that many did looking for a chemical solution to different aspects of this assault and only took various supplements sporadically and experimentally but it adds up.

There are some who have told me that they have spent 10's of thousands...

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rrodynmac's avatar

Hi matt, to you, do the after pictures look like the rbc’s have thick membranes like Karl’s pics of synthetic erythomers?

I’m not trying to be a downer here, I just need an answer before deciding.

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matt. j.a.o.b's avatar

Hi Rod,

Different objectives can make the wbcs appear as if they have a thick membrane. I have not seen an increase in synthetic cells from the green laser. I have seen less but have not quantified it yet.

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rrodynmac's avatar

Thanks very much for that answer matt, I really appreciate it! More than you’ll ever know!💐🙂 (I’m a shiela btw)

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Greg's's avatar

Unclear ...are you seeing evidence from Karl that rbcs membraned thicken after being invaded by those flouescent multicolored nano beads packing in approx ,10 thick after shooting over from those pod bags holding hundreds same color, size.

Karl apparently removed mega dramatic video of them depositing from bags to blood cells in under 10 seconds ,did you happen to save it, downloaded?

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rrodynmac's avatar

Greg, I haven’t got anything downloaded sorry. Honestly I never really watched the videos (well, not much)-I was just interested in the end result.

Sorry I can’t help. I wonder why Karl removed the video?

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Brandon Iglesias, Chem.E.'s avatar

Thank you for this post. There are several ways to clean the blood through use of rife pulsed frequencies as described in Nenah Sylva's book "The Rife Handbook" where several manufacturers of plasma rife pulsers have also demonstrated before and after blood cleaning with Live Blood Analysis LBA. I am still pursuing the working hypothesis that the only healthy people will be diamagnetic and not paramagnetic with associated nanotechnology being of diamagnetic nature and not paramagnetic. I agree with the mindset, nanotechnology is pervasive and everywhere. However, not all nanotechnology is the same. I do not want magnetic nanotechnology (e.g. graphene) in my body. However, silver, gold, bismuth, copper, zinc, etc. is all fine and good with me since it will repel the magnetic nanotechnology. Therefore, I've been pursuing work on diamagnetic enhancement and magnetic removal of quantum based nanotechnology from my body. I think this is the path forward for humanity, given the current self-replicating nanotechnology explosion on earth. You can view my work here www.aibcps.com and constructive feedback is always welcomed.

I choose PEMF H-field at 1 to 5 Tesla pulse discharge to clean my body of the magnetic nanotechnology and keep the diamagnetic (gold, silver, copper, zinc, bismuth) as I think this is the path forward, while consuming fresh living foods like vegetables with chlorophyll in it and then then utilizing quantum imprinted media on my body to reduce SAR (e.g. bodywell.com type tech). Everyone has their path and nobody knows the correct path, so sharing is top-of-mind, especially for those impacted negatively by magnetic nanotechnology, which in some use cases is a quantum weapon system (designer).

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Greg's's avatar

Is there any green laser clubs or Facebook or sites?

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Greg's's avatar

What's average expected time to disolve away a calamari clots of medium size in leg and what's the procedure with other supplements or things you need do?

To avoid heating calamari issue are you limiting time exposure?

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LG's avatar

I didn’t buy the laser due to Christmas expenses, hoping people who did will leave feedback in the comments.

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Juan Campo's avatar

Who can afford that? There are less expensive solutions.

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rrodynmac's avatar

Like what do you mean? Not being a smarty pants, just wondering your thoughts!

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antoinette.uiterdijk's avatar

Question: you write about "clumped blood". Do you mean a blood clumped into a clot ? Clots in your veins (arms. legs) are dangerous and lead to a pulmonary embolism. Is that what you are describing ? Otherwise, what do you mean by the expression ?

I recently had a small blood clot in a superficial vein near my wrist (after surgery). It went away within a week by regularly putting a warm, moist, cloth on it.

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420MedicineMan's avatar

The white clots the embalmers are finding are hydrogels, polymers and nano heavy metals. These white clots also grow in living people, they're only detectable by blood flow anomalies or infrared imaging. The hydrogels are designed to be hidden via phonon and electromagnetism resonance.

These white clots...

https://www.hartgroup.org/white-clots/

They're detectable by this method.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2804148/

I had 3 foot clot in my right leg, 2 inch one in the crook of my right arm, and had one in the venous vasculature in the left hemisphere of my brain. The Tri-vortex geo laser broke them down, my chelation, osmosis protocol help me pass them out via the kidneys. It's a non invasive method. In the USA the Cath Labs are surgically pulling the white clots out of people, as a dissident surgical technician, described to Dr McMillian on his YouTube channel, Dr McMillian is mentioned in the hartgroup link above.

I was targeted, by certain members of US DoD, what ever spooks with in DARPA.

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antoinette.uiterdijk's avatar

I never heard of white blood clots, but as long as I learn something new every day, life is good. Thank you for the links.

Heavy metals in blood is a known issue, insurance companies.'s will even pay for removal. Chelation was (is?) invasive as far as I know, as it needs an IV to administer the de-chelating agent. If a non-invasive method is found, that would be good news.

Happy to hear you are doing better !

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matt. j.a.o.b's avatar

There are many natural chelating agents that people can find if they research. Good luck.

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Greg's's avatar

Matt,what's your top 3 natural chelating agents please? Any luck with the green laser?

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Rodney Wade's avatar

Below is a link to a non-invasive microsomal edta that is used to remove heavy metals as well as hydrogel from the clot shots. Hope this helps.

https://globalhealing.com/products/calcium-disodium-edta

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antoinette.uiterdijk's avatar

I'm always happy with suggestions.

But here's the deal. On another Substack someone - after mentioning long-Covid issues - advised a Chlorine Dioxide Kit from Crystal Wonder Labs. Put a few drops in some water and drink it daily. I would be amazed with the results.

So, I ordered. When I received the bottles it included instructions. These said the product was only for decontaminating water, and not to take it by mouth as it would burn my insides. Now I am apprehensive about Substack advice unless I know the person giving it is an MD, DO, or at least an NP.

Furthermore, while I think we should be apprehensive when it comes to vaccinations, as we should about all medications, especially those newly marketed, stating that Covid shots are clot-shots is too "easy" for me. Shots can apparently in some people cause clots of different kinds, but Covid is known to do this too.

One cannot tell me Covid does not exist, it is just the flu (no it is not - I know from experience), and then tell me about the weird & unusual clots it can form.

This virus exists, it mutates, it is dangerous. Whether mRNA vaccinations are the way to go, I leave that discussion to those educated/experienced enough to have opinions. But I will keep reading.

Thank you for responding.

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420MedicineMan's avatar

It's not a virus it's biosynthetic nanotechnology, it uses your blood as a substrate, the EMF from cell towers, mobile phones hyperexcite it, makes it grow. Essentially it's radiation poisoning, which has the same sign and symptoms as the common flu. The chlorine dioxide does work, it's not allowed to be sold in our countries as oral medication, hence the labelling. You need to do research and be very careful when diluting that product.

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Greg's's avatar

My guess is a lab virus like concoction was one of several means of reproducing similar symptoms so people could be effected even in low emf areas etc

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rrodynmac's avatar

Some people call them “Hirschmann” clots, as he is an embalmer in Alabama (good grief it rhymes sort of) who reported finding them, also John O’Looney an embalmer in U.K. somewhere has been finding them. You can find info on the web-maybe look these guys up before they disappear from the web if you want.

I’m sure more embalmers all over the world have been finding them, but they’re too scared to say anything!

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antoinette.uiterdijk's avatar

I found scientific medical papers describing white clots.

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420MedicineMan's avatar

The PubMed only mention the misfolded protein, beta amyloids... That is only a smalll fragment of the larger picture. The spike protein is more of a propaganda stunt then anything.

The beta amyloids, the fibrins hyper extend with the PEG are cross linked to nano heavy metal clusters, making a crosslinked hydrogel. The CuO2 doped reduced Graphene oxide, which then presents a Cu, is the catalyst for the DNA polymers, it's why it has such a rapid growth and reaction rate.

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rrodynmac's avatar

That’s good! Or bad-depending on one’s viewpoint!🙂

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